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Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Difference between multiple primary and secondary files..


Hi all..!

If I want to split an SQL DB into several physical files (as its 500GB
disk ran out of space, won't even run shrinks any more, and we bought
another 500GB disk to add to the PC)
then what is the difference between:
Adding another File to the primary group which will reside on the new
group;
Adding another file in another group.
We do not want to set any db objects (Tables, indexes)
to a secondary file, as this will involve lengthy data moving
operations. We would like the DB to continue working from where it is
utilizing the added space in a contigous (striped) manner.

Will striping occur in both cases? as I understand striping it means
that our stuck SQL Server will awake back to life as it will now have
500GB more data for its DB, even though we haven't set any of its
objects (tables, indexes) to explicitly use the secondary NDF file on
the new disk?
or will it only utilize the new space if we set some objects to reside
on that NDF?

for example if we run large queries which crash now (due to lack of
space) when we add the second drive will they start to work as the
process will grow striped from the full drive to the new drive, even if
all the queries' source tables are all still set to the old drive?

Thanks for any replies?(developmental2@.walla.com) writes:
> If I want to split an SQL DB into several physical files (as its 500GB
> disk ran out of space, won't even run shrinks any more, and we bought
> another 500GB disk to add to the PC)
> then what is the difference between:
> Adding another File to the primary group which will reside on the new
> group;
> Adding another file in another group.

If you add another filegroup, you need to move objects, as objects
below to a filegroup. Since you don't want to that, you should add
a secondary file to the primary filegroup.

I don't have much experience of secondary files myself, but I would
expect SQL Server start to spill over the new file, as soon as it is
available.

If you want to have certainty, it could be a good idea to set up a
small-size test, before you go ahead with the big database.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Determining what causes tempdb to autogrow

I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows to
the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how to
determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It is
perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions.
Rod,
Use perfmonitor.
Performance object - "SQLServer: Access methods"
Counters - Workfiles Created/sec,Worktables created/sec,Worktables From
cache Ratio and also anything related.
Performance object - "SQLServer:databases"
Counters - Active transactions, datafile size and also anything related.
Here is some related info:
'TechNet Support WebCast: Administering and maintaining the tempdb system
database in Microsoft SQL Server'
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=sql2k
Dinesh
SQL Server MVP
--
SQL Server FAQ at
http://www.tkdinesh.com
"Rod Bautista" <rod.bautista@.adam-us.com> wrote in message
news:uLrNl#GOEHA.2716@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows
to
> the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
> shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how
to
> determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It
is
> perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
> correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
> This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
> suggestions.
>
|||Some information here as well
http://www.aspfaq.com/2446
Aaron Bertrand
SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/
"Rod Bautista" <rod.bautista@.adam-us.com> wrote in message
news:uLrNl%23GOEHA.2716@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows to
> the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
> shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how
> to
> determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It
> is
> perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
> correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
> This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
> suggestions.
>

Determining what causes tempdb to autogrow

I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows to
the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how to
determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It is
perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions.Rod,
Use perfmonitor.
Performance object - "SQLServer: Access methods"
Counters - Workfiles Created/sec,Worktables created/sec,Worktables From
cache Ratio and also anything related.
Performance object - "SQLServer:databases"
Counters - Active transactions, datafile size and also anything related.
Here is some related info:
'TechNet Support WebCast: Administering and maintaining the tempdb system
database in Microsoft SQL Server'
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834846&Product=sql2k
Dinesh
SQL Server MVP
--
--
SQL Server FAQ at
http://www.tkdinesh.com
"Rod Bautista" <rod.bautista@.adam-us.com> wrote in message
news:uLrNl#GOEHA.2716@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows
to
> the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
> shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how
to
> determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It
is
> perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
> correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
> This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
> suggestions.
>|||Some information here as well
http://www.aspfaq.com/2446
--
Aaron Bertrand
SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/
"Rod Bautista" <rod.bautista@.adam-us.com> wrote in message
news:uLrNl%23GOEHA.2716@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows to
> the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
> shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how
> to
> determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It
> is
> perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
> correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
> This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
> suggestions.
>

Determining what causes tempdb to autogrow

I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows to
the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how to
determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It is
perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions.Rod,
Use perfmonitor.
Performance object - "SQLServer: Access methods"
Counters - Workfiles Created/sec,Worktables created/sec,Worktables From
cache Ratio and also anything related.
Performance object - "SQLServer:databases"
Counters - Active transactions, datafile size and also anything related.
Here is some related info:
'TechNet Support WebCast: Administering and maintaining the tempdb system
database in Microsoft SQL Server'
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...6&Product=sql2k
Dinesh
SQL Server MVP
--
--
SQL Server FAQ at
http://www.tkdinesh.com
"Rod Bautista" <rod.bautista@.adam-us.com> wrote in message
news:uLrNl#GOEHA.2716@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows
to
> the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
> shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how
to
> determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It
is
> perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
> correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
> This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
> suggestions.
>|||Some information here as well
http://www.aspfaq.com/2446
Aaron Bertrand
SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/
"Rod Bautista" <rod.bautista@.adam-us.com> wrote in message
news:uLrNl%23GOEHA.2716@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I have a SQL server with over 15 user databases on it. Tempdb autogrows to
> the point that it monopolizes all available disk space (I just recently
> shrank it from 36 GB to free up space). Does anyone have any tips on how
> to
> determine what process are causing so much space usage for my tempdb? It
> is
> perplexing...I used sysmon to track when log usage increases and I try to
> correlate that with profile traces in which I capture 'text like '%#%'.
> This is not the best way to do this so I was wondering if anyone had any
> suggestions.
>